TY - GEN
T1 - On the Expansion of Monadic Second-Order Logic with Cantor-Bendixson Rank and Order Type Predicates
AU - Colcombet, Thomas
AU - Rabinovich, Alexander
N1 - Publisher Copyright: © Thomas Colcombet and Alexander Rabinovich.
PY - 2025/2/3
Y1 - 2025/2/3
N2 - In this work, we consider two extensions of monadic second-order logic, and study in what cases the classical decidability results are preserved. The first extension, MSO[CBrankβ], is MSO (over the signature of the binary tree) augmented with the extra ability to express that the subtree over a set X has Cantor-Bendixson rank β, for some fixed countable ordinal β. We show that this extension is decidable over the binary tree if and only if β is finite, which means that it is decidable if and only if it is equivalent in expressiveness to MSO. The second extension, MSO[otpα], is MSO (over the signature of order) augmented with the extra ability to express that the suborder induced by a set X has order type α for some fixed countable ordinal α. We show that this extension is decidable over countable ordinals if and only if α < ωω, which means that it is decidable if and only if it is equivalent in expressiveness to MSO. The first result can be established as a consequence of the second. The second result relies on the undecidability results of the logic BMSO (itself relying on the undecidability of MSO+U) in the case of ωβ for β a limit ordinal, and on entirely new techniques when β is a successor ordinal. We also have some partial extensions of the second result to some uncountable cases.
AB - In this work, we consider two extensions of monadic second-order logic, and study in what cases the classical decidability results are preserved. The first extension, MSO[CBrankβ], is MSO (over the signature of the binary tree) augmented with the extra ability to express that the subtree over a set X has Cantor-Bendixson rank β, for some fixed countable ordinal β. We show that this extension is decidable over the binary tree if and only if β is finite, which means that it is decidable if and only if it is equivalent in expressiveness to MSO. The second extension, MSO[otpα], is MSO (over the signature of order) augmented with the extra ability to express that the suborder induced by a set X has order type α for some fixed countable ordinal α. We show that this extension is decidable over countable ordinals if and only if α < ωω, which means that it is decidable if and only if it is equivalent in expressiveness to MSO. The first result can be established as a consequence of the second. The second result relies on the undecidability results of the logic BMSO (itself relying on the undecidability of MSO+U) in the case of ωβ for β a limit ordinal, and on entirely new techniques when β is a successor ordinal. We also have some partial extensions of the second result to some uncountable cases.
KW - Algorithmic model theory
KW - Binary tree
KW - Logic
KW - Monadic second-order logic
KW - Ordinals
UR - http://www.scopus.com/inward/record.url?scp=85217417254&partnerID=8YFLogxK
U2 - https://doi.org/10.4230/LIPIcs.CSL.2025.11
DO - https://doi.org/10.4230/LIPIcs.CSL.2025.11
M3 - منشور من مؤتمر
T3 - Leibniz International Proceedings in Informatics, LIPIcs
BT - 33rd EACSL Annual Conference on Computer Science Logic, CSL 2025
A2 - Endrullis, Jorg
A2 - Schmitz, Sylvain
PB - Schloss Dagstuhl- Leibniz-Zentrum fur Informatik GmbH, Dagstuhl Publishing
T2 - 33rd EACSL Annual Conference on Computer Science Logic, CSL 2025
Y2 - 10 February 2025 through 14 February 2025
ER -